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Cool!

Or should that be warm. LOL! Ahem..

 

Kenlow used to make something similar that you plugged into the mains in your house.

Hotstart I think it was called.

 

The idea being you had the car in the garage or on the drive.

The Kenlow unit was a water heater and pump.

It sat in the water system and when plugged into the mains, heated up and pumped the heated water around the engine.

It didn't have the advantage of using the car's fuel and didn't warm up the cab area either.

 

But I like that! Where from and how much? :)

 

Jason.

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Umm.

Just had a quick look on the old Google..

Not gonna get much change from £1k. :(

 

I wonder what I can knock together with a bit of pipework, an old Central heating pump, Thermos, Peizo electric lighter and an Arduino?

lol!

 

Jason.

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Wouldnt it be simpler just to start your car by remote control ?

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Be simpler and cheaper to just get in and drive the thing :car:

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Be simpler and cheaper to just get in and drive the thing :car:

 

:rofl: :rofl:

 

Have one in my current car AND I can say I've never used it :cheers:

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:rofl: :rofl:

 

Have one in my current car AND I can say I've never used it :cheers:

 

Not surprised really these are ment for sub Zero temps to get the engine to just start and save on wear, or for peeps who cant stand cold tootsies for a few mins, can't see either of that type of owner having a cortina in the first place ? that and the setup costing more than the car :headscratch:

 

As with most things it has it's place, maybe in scotland for 2 months of the year (you know in deep winter when your very unlikely to drive a cortina) it could be conciderd essential but it's a lot of money for something you'd never use for 10 months of the year :unsure: pluss you'd need a bigger battery to cope with the running of the heater and you try getting a petrol version, alll they seem to want to sell is diesel versions (unless you want to convert the cortina to diesel as well) and listen to the waffle on the site, " most accidents happen in the first 15 mins due to lack of vision" well clean your dam windows propperly then BEFORE you drive off :rolleyes: .

 

Having said all that i do have a webasto aux heater from a BMW diesel, i'm using it to heat my camper when i get to building the int, so as i said they do have thier place.

 

Not knocking you 3dr, they can be great and usefull but not in a cortina, maybe in an E type where an engine rebuild is more than a whole cortina costs, or a daily hack you use in the winter ?

 

If you really want one Jason look into diesel aux heater from french people carriers seayt/ford/VW or BMWs :thumbup: (try not to get a canbus controled unit) some DIY and thought and you could have at least a pre heater (with out the remote control) for under £100 BUT petrol version are rare and way more expensive, that's £70 more than mine in me camper cost but i tend to wait and save money, mine so far has cost me £30 but as i say i wait and i'm in the trade so to speak ;)

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Not surprised really these are ment for sub Zero temps to get the engine to just start and save on wear, or for peeps who cant stand cold tootsies for a few mins, can't see either of that type of owner having a cortina in the first place ? that and the setup costing more than the car :headscratch:

 

As with most things it has it's place, maybe in scotland for 2 months of the year (you know in deep winter when your very unlikely to drive a cortina) it could be conciderd essential but it's a lot of money for something you'd never use for 10 months of the year :unsure: pluss you'd need a bigger battery to cope with the running of the heater and you try getting a petrol version, alll they seem to want to sell is diesel versions (unless you want to convert the cortina to diesel as well) and listen to the waffle on the site, " most accidents happen in the first 15 mins due to lack of vision" well clean your dam windows propperly then BEFORE you drive off :rolleyes: .

 

Having said all that i do have a webasto aux heater from a BMW diesel, i'm using it to heat my camper when i get to building the int, so as i said they do have thier place.

 

Not knocking you 3dr, they can be great and usefull but not in a cortina, maybe in an E type where an engine rebuild is more than a whole cortina costs, or a daily hack you use in the winter ?

 

If you really want one Jason look into diesel aux heater from french people carriers seayt/ford/VW or BMWs :thumbup: (try not to get a canbus controled unit) some DIY and thought and you could have at least a pre heater (with out the remote control) for under £100 BUT petrol version are rare and way more expensive, that's £70 more than mine in me camper cost but i tend to wait and save money, mine so far has cost me £30 but as i say i wait and i'm in the trade so to speak ;)

 

This reminds me of the mk2 owners who want , Zetec engine , rack and pinion steering ( possibly with power ) electric windows , remote locking etc. etc - basicaly a Ford Focus with a 1960s body attached :thumbdown:

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^^

Sounds a little like me!

LOL!

 

Although, I can't abide electric windows!

 

I can see the advantage of using one of these heaters in an older car like a Cortina and even in a Mk2 Fiesta.

These cars don't have heated windscreens.

We drive our Fiesta as a daily. Rain or shine.

I have every intention of using my Cortina ( when it's done ) as a daily. Rain or shine.

So our cars get used when it's cold. When it's wet. When it warm etc.

 

Condensation and fog on the inside of the screen for the first 10 minutes of driving can be a pain and in some cases dangerous.

I'd rather have a clear screen.

 

A group buy was done on XRTwo.com a few years back for Mk2 Fiesta heated screens. I really wish I'd bought two when I had the chance!

 

Jason.

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I've seen similar in a landrover, mostly the webasto ones. My mate has a diesel heater in his camper it does blow hot air and is a bit like central heating with a thermostat, pretty sure it heats his hot water too or perhaps that is a seperate gas system. He had a job getting it started once, he kept trying to light it and suddenly BANG!! He'd forgotten to remove the flue cover on the side of the van and when it reluctantly lit it'd blown that off about 100ft into the air.

The ones you plug into the mains are alright, basically heat the coolant up so as soon as you start the car the blowers are warn as it's the heated coolant that goes through the matrix that makes warm air in the first place. Saves having the choke out to start so prob saves a bit of fuel.

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I've seen similar in a landrover, mostly the webasto ones. My mate has a diesel heater in his camper it does blow hot air and is a bit like central heating with a thermostat, pretty sure it heats his hot water too or perhaps that is a seperate gas system. He had a job getting it started once, he kept trying to light it and suddenly BANG!! He'd forgotten to remove the flue cover on the side of the van and when it reluctantly lit it'd blown that off about 100ft into the air.

The ones you plug into the mains are alright, basically heat the coolant up so as soon as you start the car the blowers are warn as it's the heated coolant that goes through the matrix that makes warm air in the first place. Saves having the choke out to start so prob saves a bit of fuel.

 

 

Block heaters have been about for years in Finland ect, just an electric immersion heater that bolts into the block, simple and effective, the webastos are way more complicated nowdays, with overheat protection and an ECU, plus they need to be somehow wired into the cars heater controls, not easy on a mechanical system like the cortina :( , as to the air heaters i've converted a few ex network rail vans to campers over the last 2 years and had the challenge of getting a few working again :smashcomp: they use the webasto airtronic D2, pretty simple if the ECU is ok and it's been serviced at least ocasionly :headscratch: they even have diagnostic ports on them :huh:

 

I've been spoiled really by the heater in my P100, as it's designed to heat an estate in Norway so it really works well in a small cab in England even with the diesel in there it will start demisting within 2 mins easy "if" i drive it, if i leave it ticking over it takes a good 10 mins to create enough heat to clear the screen, that's the great thing about a turbo, it heats everything up nice and quick "if" you drive it :icecream:

 

I've had a heated screen and i can't say i miss it but then my heaters allways work propperly, in me cortina i have a Ghia heater matrix (thicker) all new seals on the box (inc between the matrix and the heater box) and a propper stat (with bleed hole), it still takes a while but it's the best it can be, modern Fords that use 2 stage stats are way quicker to heat up cos they keep the coolant in the head for a while to warm it up first for emmisions and then partially open to allow coolant to the matrix, in older cars the coolant is allways going through the matrix and so keeps the head cooler longer and takes longer to warm up, it's not something i'be found a way round yet :(

 

 

Condensation, i keep a leather in the door pocket to keep the screen clear, it's not really a chore nor does it get dangerous unless you let it, don't meen that to sound like a knock or confrontational :thumbup: but you hear so many people claiming this and that is dangerous but the reality is it's only dangerous if you let it be, stop for 10 seconds, wipe it, sort it, drive off :thumbup: although once again i dont really suffer from it as my car is water tight, i only really get it if i get in wet or sweaty (after humping sand bags or tree limbs about in the dam rain) then i just leave the windows open a crack with the heater on full, the wifes escort suffers from condensation really bad, you have to leave the sunroof on tilt for the last 10 mins of a journey to clear it every eve or come the morning the screen is wetter inside than outside :tears: still not found the leak that causes it (unless the leak is the missus :headscratch: )

 

One thing that did help is these (below) they fill up every 2 weeks or so depending on how dab the condensation is and do help keep the screen clearer but i will find the leak causing it

 

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574629005&toolid=10001&campid=5335900709&customid=&mpre=http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-5-x-INTERIOR-DEHUMIDIFIER-MOULD-MILDEW-DAMP-MOISTURE-CONDENSATION-CAR-HOME-/111201701912

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or for peeps who cant stand cold tootsies for a few mins,

that fit's in my category then :D It just saves having to wait for the windows to defrost whilst sitting in the car freezing your nads off. And I only travel 2.5 miles to work,takes about 8 minutes,when the Sierra is about to warm up

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