1600e 2door

[COLIN RNK 2]

Colin, there has been a bit chat recently that there may have been a couple more rhd cars made than first thought, as someone spotted 3 or 4 of them lined up in the Ford car park in 1969 / 70. It could have been the 'CML' set, but that is a Middlesex registration number, and apparently the cars at Ford had a Chelmsford number, which makes sense. One has recently turned up in Zimbabwe as well, so when Ford said that 'a handful' of RHD cars had been made, it may well have been 8 or 10 cars rather than the 4 or 5 known about and discussed on here a few years back. Not many survivors though.

 

If you're able to buy it give me a bell and I'll talk through all the bits to look out for, and what the chassis plate should have on it.

Thanks Mark I will if thats ok have a good Xmas catch up next year

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As stated, looked to be the real McCoy, was at the Sea Life Centre, Bugibba, but, everyone was replicating 1600E's in the 70's, if it wasn't the real deal, then it was a very good replica, no doubt you can correct me, also at the same time, there was 2 Mexicos, think they were 1100's, also a Jag E type,or was it a Challenger ??? Here we go again !!!

 

Will be part of the Malta Classic Ford Club then I will ask about it.

[KKCortina 3]

From my ancient archives...I have an email (see below for extract) from a guy (reckon in Bournemouth area) for a 2 door Aubergine RHD 1600E( with a side-on pic so no number plate)...I have this described as CML 627H in my records but I cannot confirm 100%).....

I saw this car at a local show in 2003/2004...and also saw it for sale from a small car dealer in Co.Wicklow before that - I have a copy of the advt with pics somehere but cannot find it....

We never saw that car since at any show in Ireland.

Email Feb 2003 .....

to all who require more info

car first registered 01/04/70

chassis no# ba96ks73374

original colour aubergine

registration no # CML 627H

interior all original

wood trims all present

chrome work all present

the car is totally complete

last mot expired in september 1998

car has been garaged evre since i have owned it

the previous owner also garaged it

the previous owner to that had the engine rebuilt by burton racing engines in salisbury.

the car could go back on the road as is, subject to mot work.

i hope that this has anwsered all your questions

cheers for now

marc

[TinaInTheForest 1]

I think that’s CML238H. I have a photo of an Aubergine RHD 2 door 1600E with that registration, and the details seem to line up with the info on DVLA (Purple, 2004 tax due and April ’70 first reg).

 

CML627H was discussed on here in some detail many moons ago. It was a black car, original colour Fern Green, and it was scrapped. A member on here (not a very popular one!) called ‘LuckyBlack’ bought the ID, and a LHD 2 door 1600E in Saluki Bronze. The mention of his name gets some folks excited!!

 

It was converted to right hand drive (poorly) and given the ID of the car that had been broken, CML627H. There were loads of photos on here showing the ‘birth’ of the new car! It never got put back on the road, although it’s still registered as ‘SORN’ on DVLA.

 

Magnus, if you have any details of lhd cars known in Scandinavia could you let me know, or point the owners at my 1600E 2 door bit on the Lotus Cortina website? I’m sure there’s still a lot to learn about these cars.

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I cant find anyone in Malta who knows the 2 door E yet - though its surprising who doesnt know what here so I am not saying its not here - I post pics of cars and other people I know in Malta have never seen them - you would think in a country of 400,000 people everyone with a classic Ford would know everyone else but its not the case.

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or point the owners at my 1600E 2 door bit on the Lotus Cortina website? Im sure theres still a lot to learn about these cars.

thx Mark, a good occasion to (re-)visit your very,very interesting hompepage. haven t been there for a long time and found many new things. thanks for all the effort in providing this info!

[TinaInTheForest 1]

Thanks for the kind words Hans, but there is no effort as I'm enjoying every minute of putting it together. I started building the site over 7 years ago, thinking I'd have it finished within 5 years. Now, I still have more to go on the site than I have put on there already, but I may have it mainly completed in another 5 years! I had resisted joining Facebook for years, but joined up this time last year as I saw a number of 'groups' growing and getting really interesting. Each of the clubs has a group, and there are groups for saloon car racing from the 60s, rallying from the 60s, a couple of additional groups for Lotus Cortinas...etc. etc. My workload for the site really took off as I got in contact with many new folks. Some worked for Ford back in the day, some for Lotus (2 on the Lotus Cortina race cars), quite a few on race Lotus Cortinas in Europe, USA, Australia and New Zealand...even Africa! I didn't want to join Facebook as I wasn't interested in what people had for their dinner, or what their dog dug up yesterday. I've found out that not many folks are, but there are many, from 50 to 90 years old, with a passion for old Cortinas, and they love talking about the cars! So my completing in 5 years is probably very optimistic now.

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Thanks for the kind words Hans, but there is no effort as I'm enjoying every minute of putting it together. I started building the site over 7 years ago, thinking I'd have it finished within 5 years. Now, I still have more to go on the site than I have put on there already, but I may have it mainly completed in another 5 years! I had resisted joining Facebook for years, but joined up this time last year as I saw a number of 'groups' growing and getting really interesting. Each of the clubs has a group, and there are groups for saloon car racing from the 60s, rallying from the 60s, a couple of additional groups for Lotus Cortinas...etc. etc. My workload for the site really took off as I got in contact with many new folks. Some worked for Ford back in the day, some for Lotus (2 on the Lotus Cortina race cars), quite a few on race Lotus Cortinas in Europe, USA, Australia and New Zealand...even Africa! I didn't want to join Facebook as I wasn't interested in what people had for their dinner, or what their dog dug up yesterday. I've found out that not many folks are, but there are many, from 50 to 90 years old, with a passion for old Cortinas, and they love talking about the cars! So my completing in 5 years is probably very optimistic now.

 

 

It will never be finished Mark , there will always be some new find , some extra detail . and as for that facebook where else would you see a 2 door RHD 1600E sitting on blocks in Africa ;)

[GhiaMk4/5 207]

I cant find anyone in Malta who knows the 2 door E yet - though its surprising who doesnt know what here so I am not saying its not here - I post pics of cars and other people I know in Malta have never seen them - you would think in a country of 400,000 people everyone with a classic Ford would know everyone else but its not the case.

 

Without never seeing a 2 door E in the flesh, l would have liked to look under the bonnet to look at the chassis plate, however there was no owner about, it seemed as though Bugibba was the meeting point for a cruise around, as we moved down the coast there was a few Spitfires a Mk1 Capri, the Mexico's, which l doubt were genuine, some very tidy Mk1 Transits, the variety was interesting, have you been to Hal Far, l have been staying in Malta for 30 years and this was my first sighting of a 2 door Mk2, which is what l suspect it really is.

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Without never seeing a 2 door E in the flesh, l would have liked to look under the bonnet to look at the chassis plate, however there was no owner about, it seemed as though Bugibba was the meeting point for a cruise around, as we moved down the coast there was a few Spitfires a Mk1 Capri, the Mexico's, which l doubt were genuine, some very tidy Mk1 Transits, the variety was interesting, have you been to Hal Far, l have been staying in Malta for 30 years and this was my first sighting of a 2 door Mk2, which is what l suspect it really is.

 

no havnt been to Hal Far yet , there are regular meets at the Aquarium of the Classic Ford Club Malta - went to a much bigger informal car meet last weekend though big photo album here on facebook https://www.facebook.com/dave.baglow.3/media_set?set=a.1878583642169470.1073741890.100000535582039&type=3

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2 door mk2 for sale in Malta LHD Portugese import

 

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this is more what you expect , brush painted Mk1 , not for sale and he would like a new window winder mechanism for drivers door if anyone has one

 

[consul315 180]

but I have put what I know up on my Lotus Cortina website here....

 

http://www.lotuscortinainfo.com/?page_id=3704

 

I'd love to see photos of your car, and I'm collecting details of the cars to get an informal register of the 2 door 1600E cars. There seems to be very few left, with about 15 known cars in the UK and around Europe, and 1 rhd one definitely still alive in the UK. You can contact me via my website if you want to natter 2 door 1600Es...or Lotus Cortina of course! I'm on Facebook as well. with lots of photos on there of my car.

 

Mark Kempson

i think i have another pic of the mth. Export Cortina with the then young Sir John Eden ( Minister iof State) driving it to the ramps, maybe (very little) other stuff in my mess archive. in case you are interested i ll search for it.

[consul315 180]

I have just purchased a 1970 2 door 1600E LHD in extremely good condition which I am going to restore - has anybody got any information relating to these cars - are they rare?

 

Many thanks

that sounds very interesting, just being nosey, is it a saluki bronze one from France?

[TinaInTheForest 1]

Very interested Hans. They is so little information about these cars that every little helps! And I thought that Lotus Cortinas were rare!!