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I'm back! After cleaning out the strater motor and putting it all back together then testing it on a battery which resulted in it almost spinning out of my hand, this morning I went to the lockup with the starter and the new battery with a day or threes worth of electrickery in it! Put everything back as it should be then realised I'd snapped the oil light sender wire off the bullet connector, no worries. Sprayed a bit of dreaded easy start down the carb, jumped in and cranked it over. After 3 or 4 tries it spluttered into life. Ran on full choke but didn't sound quite right. On inspection I found that I'd left number 1 plug lead off from when I had the stobe light fitted! :huh: Turned it off, fitted the lead and cranked it up again. YEEEHAAA! In this lovely weather it didn't take more than a minute or so to run on no choke, all this on petrol that has sat in the tank for months. Not much of the stuff and mostly super unleaded but just shows you. When the petrol has run out these old Pintos will probably run on Aldi/Lidl scotch! Now to get the brakes sorted. Almost road legal, almost.:angry: Thanks for the input guys.

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Yay well done!!

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So I've decided that it's not electrical but following on....

 SInce my Cortina got it's life back I have been to the lockup and started it 3 times now. The last time, about 2 weeks ago, it started and had the nice little misfire with black and black sooty exhaust so I decided that the old FoMoCo carb was goosed, well it is 44 years old.  I decided to bite the bullet, splashed out £200+ for a new toy and it arrived yesterday ( a day earlier than expected, FastRoadCar on ebay is the business). I couldn't fit it today 'cos the wife had something far far more important to do, going to get another tattoo! :angry:

So, here is my new bit of kit. A Weber 34 ICH and fitting kit.

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Fingers crossed,.............again. If this works then I can fit the tank I got from SheffieldCortinaCentre <-- :thumbsup: and bleed the brakes.(I'm hoping the master cylinder hasn't got any rust in it!)

ps: classiccarbs.co.uk is also very helpful but £10 postage vs Free postage was a no brainer so FRC it was.

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Will a new carburettor come set up or will you have rondo all that once it’s fitted to the engine?

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Probably need tweaking.

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Time to get my Gunsons Gas Tester out. Maybe this time it will run correctly.:huh:

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Ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa. Today I started the car up, backed it out of the lockup complete with slight misfire. Took the old carb off. Fitted nice shiney new Weber, note; the plastic jubilee clips don't fit around the hose once it's on the carb! Fitted new fuel filter, then cranked it over. Cranked it over. Cranked it over. Fuel in new filter now, cranked it over and over and over and over and over. Scratch head and fit strobe light, crank it, yeah got a spark. Spray easystart down carb. Crank it over and over and over and over and you get the gist! I remove shiney new Weber and refit old knackered FoMoCo carb and repeat. The battery is starting to tire by now and the red lead is getting hot again! I burnt my thumb on the nut holding battery cable to the solenoid. I pack everything up and push it back into the lockup.:angry::angry: I am seriously thinking of scrapping it again!:sad:

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2 hours ago, Beeper said:

Ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa. Today I started the car up, backed it out of the lockup complete with slight misfire. Took the old carb off. Fitted nice shiney new Weber, note; the plastic jubilee clips don't fit around the hose once it's on the carb! Fitted new fuel filter, then cranked it over. Cranked it over. Cranked it over. Fuel in new filter now, cranked it over and over and over and over and over. Scratch head and fit strobe light, crank it, yeah got a spark. Spray easystart down carb. Crank it over and over and over and over and you get the gist! I remove shiney new Weber and refit old knackered FoMoCo carb and repeat. The battery is starting to tire by now and the red lead is getting hot again! I burnt my thumb on the nut holding battery cable to the solenoid. I pack everything up and push it back into the lockup.:angry::angry: I am seriously thinking of scrapping it again!:sad:

 

Hi Beeper,

                  I bought a NEW DGV Twin Choke Webber Carb from a very reputable dealer and was told it was plug and play. It did work out of the box but when I got the car set up on a rolling road the NEW Carb had to be re jetted !! As it was way off tune.

 

Cheers

Steve

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That doesn't explain why it won't start with the original carb when it did fire up no problem when I first got to the lockup!

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I've not kept up with what Cortina you have. Would it not have an additional wire going to the starter? I have it on my MK5,but shakes off,and it escapes my mind when it's a bugger to start.

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Just to double check you have removed or replaced the ballast resister wire

My mk4 done the same thing as your basically 

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Ballast wire still on coil, Heavy red lead which gets hot, and two wires, one spade connector one bullet connector still in situe. I had a brainwave the other night. When I was originally trying to start it, ages ago, it turned out that I had the cam timing out but not knowing at the time I fitted an old Fiesta condensor as I thought the 'new' one that I'd fitted with points and rotor arm might have died. Now I'm thinking maybe I replaced the Fiesta one for a reason! 🤨  I need to go back and refit the new one and fingers crossed.

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You can take the condensor off completely.  It should fire up like that (though not good to leave without one)

 

Are you clear if you're not getting spark or fuel?

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I had fuel in the old carb when I took it off, I have a strobe light that lights up when fitted to number 1 plug and dissy cap. So in my limited knowledge that leaves a duff condenser.

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If your strobe light works then you have a spark so the condenser shouldn't be the problem. It's either no fuel getting through or wrongly timed spark.

 

A few hopefully obvious questions:

1. Are the plugs getting wet with fuel?

2. Have you had the dizzy out for any reason?

3. Did you change anything else when you swapped the carb

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