markymarkthree 174 Posted May 31, 2025 (edited) Wanted starter for my Essex. If you see one on EBAY ect let me know. If you see one at a jumble ect, get it bought. It was fitted to the MK1 V4 Transit and i believe is referred to as the "high output" starter. This is stamped into it. MOTORCRAFT 12V USA D2FF 11001- A1H 20B It has a single wire connection from the solenoid, 9 teeth and it looks like this From the Essex V4/V6 microfiche. Edited May 31, 2025 by markymarkthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheffieldcortinacentre 741 Posted May 31, 2025 I think only used pre 70 very rare can't think last time I saw one. Same style as V8 windsor small block ford. Different mounting plt. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimB 94 Posted June 1, 2025 Don't know if this is of help. I have a spare for my 67 Corsair 1.7 V4 Auto. It looks the same flange fitting but doesn't have that housing on top. If my memory is good it looks like a standard inertia motor with a different flange for the V4. If it might help your search then I'll dig it out and post some photos. Sorry it's my spare and not for sale. Good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheffieldcortinacentre 741 Posted June 1, 2025 Yep will be same, think I've a V6 one with built in solenoid. Those are a sort of halfway house between both common type of starter motor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markymarkthree 174 Posted June 2, 2025 14 hours ago, TimB said: Don't know if this is of help. I have a spare for my 67 Corsair 1.7 V4 Auto. It looks the same flange fitting but doesn't have that housing on top. If my memory is good it looks like a standard inertia motor with a different flange for the V4. If it might help your search then I'll dig it out and post some photos. Sorry it's my spare and not for sale. Good luck. Post a pic please, it may help. Length is the main problem. Any longer than the one in my pic and it wont fit. Solenoid on mine sits on the inner wing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimB 94 Posted June 2, 2025 Pics below. As I remembered it is an inertia with a V4 flange and 9 tooth. Picture of the box shows pattern maker name and their part number which may help in search. The one you have looks like a pre engaged with a remote solenoid, interesting never seen that before. I presume the dog gear is sprung loaded and throws into mesh with the ring gear as soon as the motor rotates. Not sure what holds it in engagement because that was one of the functions of the solenoid fitted on the top of pre-engaged starters. So guess it works but the inclusion of the solenoid was an improvement development. I've not actually taken the starter out of my Corsair to see if the dog gear teeth are the same on an Auto (probably) and not sure when I will next pull it out of storage. If that ever happens and it is no use for me I'll let you know, but sorry again not much help at present. Hope you find one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markymarkthree 174 Posted June 3, 2025 20 hours ago, TimB said: Pics below. As I remembered it is an inertia with a V4 flange and 9 tooth. Picture of the box shows pattern maker name and their part number which may help in search. The one you have looks like a pre engaged with a remote solenoid, interesting never seen that before. I presume the dog gear is sprung loaded and throws into mesh with the ring gear as soon as the motor rotates. Not sure what holds it in engagement because that was one of the functions of the solenoid fitted on the top of pre-engaged starters. So guess it works but the inclusion of the solenoid was an improvement development. I've not actually taken the starter out of my Corsair to see if the dog gear teeth are the same on an Auto (probably) and not sure when I will next pull it out of storage. If that ever happens and it is no use for me I'll let you know, but sorry again not much help at present. Hope you find one. Thanks for the pics, interesting stuff. The Ford microfiche refer to mine as "positive engaged" and the normal ones with the solenoid attached "pre-engaged". I wonder what the difference is ? Could you tell me what the distance is between the mounting bolt holes and the length from where it touches the bell housing to the rear. I want one as a spare, as my one served me well for 15 ish years (and god knows how many before that) and i have now used my spare. A starter specialist has said mine has cooked the armature and will cost £200+ for a rewind. This looks like yours on the fiche. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mk2sav 42 Posted June 3, 2025 HI Mark - the motor shown by Tim is as he said an inertia starter , yours is an older design that without the solenoid on top is referred to as a positive starter and motors with the solenoid on are pre - engaged . Tims is no good for you as the bendix comes from the other side of the ring gear whereas the other two come from the engine side if that makes sense . Steve. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimB 94 Posted June 3, 2025 I measured anyway in case of use - Flange mounting face to end of cable stud 180mm Flange mounting face to centre square shaft 170mm Flange mounting face to end of bendix shaft 125mm Hole centres 145mm Armature body length 130mm (may be interchangeable, long shot). You'd probably find the inertia would match the mounting flange but the bendix shaft would foul on the bellhousing i.e. too long. Also flywheel ring gear teeth, although may be right number, engagement from the other direction may be bad. (all unknows). The armature if removed could be the same as another from a different starter, but how you find that out I don't know, ask your expert? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markymarkthree 174 Posted February 1 Apologies, i meant to reply with update but forgot. Had a great result one day last year. Firstly picked up this at a show, which appears to be the same ish as mine but i suspect it is for a Bronco, Maverick or Mustang. Difference being cog housing and the bolt hole spacing. My thought being, just swap the end housing for the Essex one. Essex on the left, yanky on the right. All swapped over, and it fits and works. Second result on the same day . Spotted nos one on EBAY for a BIN price of £40 all in. Tiz a thing of beauty. Meanwhile, it turns out all along that i could have been mugged by a well known German supplier of stuff and bought a recon for £343 + postage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheffieldcortinacentre 741 Posted February 1 Bargain can't believe you didn't get it. You could probably have imported a couple from rock auto for less. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
