Type 9 - V6 Essex Issues

[V6Bakkie 0]

I have an early type 9 gearbox with V6 Essex bellhousing which is supposed to have come out of an SA Bakkie to convert my current 4 speed to 5 speed – however I have my doubts -

The initial make or break issue for me is the relative height of the input shaft to the bellhousing/engine mounting flange – on my 4 speed it protrudes about 3mm - on the 5 speed it is about 10mm low.

So my initial question is – will the shaft have enough (if any) purchase into the crank spigot bearing?

[markymarkthree 178]

2 hours ago, V6Bakkie said:

I have an early type 9 gearbox with V6 Essex bellhousing which is supposed to have come out of an SA Bakkie to convert my current 4 speed to 5 speed – however I have my doubts -

The initial make or break issue for me is the relative height of the input shaft to the bellhousing/engine mounting flange – on my 4 speed it protrudes about 3mm - on the 5 speed it is about 10mm low.

So my initial question is – will the shaft have enough (if any) purchase into the crank spigot bearing?

Sounds like you have a Pinto type 9, with the shorter input shaft than the V6 type 9.

Can you put a picture up ?

[V6Bakkie 0]

[V6Bakkie 0]

The input shaft is also 18 teeth and first gear 29 teeth

 

 

[V6Bakkie 0]

[markymarkthree 178]

That looks like a Pinto box.

Length of protruding shaft from sleeve needs to be about 85 ish mm. Yours looks about 70mm.

Also the v6 type 9 is a stronger box.

[markymarkthree 178]

Hopefully you have the correct bellhousing, as it needs to be from a 2.5 Essex. 

 

[V6Bakkie 0]

Thanks for the quick replies Mark - you are correct it's 70mm

For me it doesn't look worth persevering as the gear ratios are not correct for a V6 even after overcoming the shaft length :-(

 

The bellhousing is an oddity - although for an Essex it is for a hydraulic clutch (side mounted flanged slave) with the pivot point on the "wrong" side and a poorly welded blanking plate to convert to early layshaft - whilst  not insurmountable to overcome/change to cable - I think I am going to stick with the 4 speed - an expensive lesson learned :-(

[sheffieldcortinacentre 763]

That's probably from a P type Taunus as over there they had Essex V6 with a hydraulic clutch ( they were a real bitza) bakkies always had a cable, as said you need a V6 box ( beware when buying one especially if it has no bell housing as diesel boxes also have the longer input shaft & a lower 1st gear) it's a minefield with type9 5 speeds especially V6 ones.